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Comcast Corp. (NASDAQ:CMCSA)

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Profitability Ratios (Summary)

Comcast Corp., profitability ratios (quarterly data)

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Return on Sales
Gross profit margin
Operating profit margin
Net profit margin
Return on Investment
Return on equity (ROE)
Return on assets (ROA)

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).


The financial data demonstrates several notable trends across key profitability and performance metrics over the observed periods.

Gross Profit Margin
This margin shows a consistent upward trend, starting from 67.61% in March 2021 and increasing steadily to reach 71.88% by September 2025. The gradual increase suggests an improvement in the core profitability of sales, possibly reflecting better cost management or pricing strategies over time.
Operating Profit Margin
The operating profit margin displayed relative stability in the initial periods, fluctuating slightly around 17%. However, a sharp decline is observed in mid to late 2022, dropping to around 11.56%-11.82%. Following this trough, a strong recovery occurred, with margins peaking near 19.33% by September 2023, after which the margin remains in the range of 17.98% to 19.32% until the last period. The dip and subsequent recovery could indicate a transient operational challenge or restructuring during 2022, followed by improved operational efficiency or cost controls.
Net Profit Margin
Net profit margin reflects a similar pattern to operating margins but with more pronounced fluctuations. It initially rises to a high around 12.73% in September 2021, then sharply decreases to lows near 4.4%-4.7% during late 2022. A subsequent rebound occurs, peaking again above 12% in early 2024. Toward the later periods, notably in 2025, net profit margins increase significantly, exceeding 18%. This pattern suggests that while profitability at the net level faced pressures in 2022, possibly due to extraordinary items, financial expenses, or tax effects, the company managed to restore and enhance profitability subsequently.
Return on Equity (ROE)
The ROE values improve steadily from 12.66% in early 2021 to 15.35% by mid-2022. A sharp decline appears in late 2022, with values dropping to around 6.6%. From early 2023 onward, ROE recovers robustly, reaching new heights above 23% in mid to late 2025. This trend mirrors the volatility seen in profit margins and may reflect variations in net income coupled with changes in shareholder equity. The recovery and growth beyond prior peaks indicate enhanced efficiency in generating shareholder returns in recent periods.
Return on Assets (ROA)
ROA follows a similar pattern, climbing gradually from 4.21% in March 2021 to just over 5% in mid-2022. A pronounced dip to near 2.1% occurs in late 2022, concurrent with the declines in profitability and ROE. Afterward, ROA boosts substantially, exceeding 8% by mid-2025. This suggests the company has become more effective at utilizing its assets to generate earnings after the challenges faced during 2022.

Overall, the financial ratios indicate a period of operational and financial stress around late 2022, characterized by marked declines in margins and returns. Nevertheless, the company demonstrates resilience through a strong recovery phase beginning in early 2023, achieving improved profitability and efficiency levels that surpass those recorded in the early part of the period under review. The consistent improvement in gross profit margin alongside cyclical operating and net margin fluctuations suggests underlying strengths in core business activities, while short-term impacts likely relate to extraordinary or one-off factors affecting operating income and net earnings.


Return on Sales


Return on Investment


Gross Profit Margin

Comcast Corp., gross profit margin calculation (quarterly data)

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Selected Financial Data (US$ in millions)
Gross profit
Revenue
Profitability Ratio
Gross profit margin1
Benchmarks
Gross Profit Margin, Competitors2
Alphabet Inc.
Meta Platforms Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Trade Desk Inc.
Walt Disney Co.

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).

1 Q3 2025 Calculation
Gross profit margin = 100 × (Gross profitQ3 2025 + Gross profitQ2 2025 + Gross profitQ1 2025 + Gross profitQ4 2024) ÷ (RevenueQ3 2025 + RevenueQ2 2025 + RevenueQ1 2025 + RevenueQ4 2024)
= 100 × ( + + + ) ÷ ( + + + ) =

2 Click competitor name to see calculations.


Revenue
Revenue exhibits fluctuations across the observed periods, with initial growth from early 2021 through the first quarter of 2022, reaching a peak around that time. However, subsequent quarters show alternating decreases and increases, with no sustained upward trend. The revenue values generally range between approximately $29 billion and $32 billion, indicating relative stability but noticeable variability quarter-to-quarter.
Gross Profit
Gross profit generally follows the revenue pattern but with less volatility in recent periods. It increases steadily from early 2021 to mid-2022, peaks during that timeframe, and then maintains a relatively stable range through 2023 and 2024. Towards the latter quarters, gross profit remains around $21 billion to $22 billion, displaying a consistent margin improvement relative to revenue trends.
Gross Profit Margin
The gross profit margin shows a clear and positive upward trend over the entire period. Starting at approximately 67.6% in March 2021, it gradually rises to nearly 72% by the third quarter of 2025. This steady improvement suggests enhanced efficiency or pricing strategies that have allowed the company to increase its profitability relative to revenue, despite fluctuations in revenue and gross profit levels.
Summary Insights
Overall, the data reflect a company experiencing variable revenue but steadily improving its operational efficiency as indicated by the rising gross profit margin. The increasing margin illustrates a strengthening ability to convert revenue into profit, possibly due to cost management or product mix optimization. While revenue does not show consistent growth, gross profit remains relatively stable, underscoring the positive impact of margin improvements on financial performance.

Operating Profit Margin

Comcast Corp., operating profit margin calculation (quarterly data)

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Selected Financial Data (US$ in millions)
Operating income (loss)
Revenue
Profitability Ratio
Operating profit margin1
Benchmarks
Operating Profit Margin, Competitors2
Alphabet Inc.
Meta Platforms Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Trade Desk Inc.
Walt Disney Co.

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).

1 Q3 2025 Calculation
Operating profit margin = 100 × (Operating income (loss)Q3 2025 + Operating income (loss)Q2 2025 + Operating income (loss)Q1 2025 + Operating income (loss)Q4 2024) ÷ (RevenueQ3 2025 + RevenueQ2 2025 + RevenueQ1 2025 + RevenueQ4 2024)
= 100 × ( + + + ) ÷ ( + + + ) =

2 Click competitor name to see calculations.


Revenue Trends
Revenue displayed fluctuations across the periods with values ranging roughly between 27,205 million US$ and 32,070 million US$. Early data points reveal a gradual increase from 27,205 million US$ to about 31,010 million US$ in early 2022, followed by a modest decline and stabilization around the 30,000 million US$ mark in subsequent quarters. The highest recorded revenue appears in the third quarter of 2024 at 32,070 million US$, after which revenue declined slightly but remained near the 30,000 million US$ level through the latest period.
Operating Income (Loss) Patterns
Operating income showed considerable volatility during the observed timeframe. Initial quarters show a generally positive and increasing trend, peaking at 6,367 million US$ in the second quarter of 2022. A notable exception occurred in the third quarter of 2022, where a significant loss of 2,426 million US$ was reported, representing a sharp negative deviation from the otherwise positive pattern. After this loss, operating income recovered and fluctuated between approximately 4,484 million US$ and 6,709 million US$ in the following quarters. The latest figures indicate a moderate upward trend, with operating income standing at 5,534 million US$ in the most recent quarter.
Operating Profit Margin Behavior
Operating profit margin exhibited variability, with percentages ranging from around 11.56% to 19.33%. The early periods showed margins in the 16-18% range, followed by a significant dip to near 11.56% in late 2021 and early 2022, coinciding with the period including the noted operating loss. Subsequently, the margin recovered substantially, reaching highs over 19% in the middle of 2023 and maintaining elevated levels into 2024. Towards the latest quarters, the margin demonstrated a slight downward adjustment while remaining above 17%, indicating sustained profitability albeit with some recent moderation.
Overall Analysis
The financial metrics reveal a company experiencing cyclical revenue with intermittent periods of contraction and growth. Operating income was generally positive but showed a sharp negative outlier, suggesting an isolated operational challenge or extraordinary event in the third quarter of 2022. Despite this, profitability margins have mostly recovered and remained strong, indicating effective cost control or improved operational efficiency in many quarters. The data suggests a capacity to rebound from adverse events and maintain solid operating performance over the medium term.

Net Profit Margin

Comcast Corp., net profit margin calculation (quarterly data)

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Selected Financial Data (US$ in millions)
Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast Corporation
Revenue
Profitability Ratio
Net profit margin1
Benchmarks
Net Profit Margin, Competitors2
Alphabet Inc.
Meta Platforms Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Trade Desk Inc.
Walt Disney Co.

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).

1 Q3 2025 Calculation
Net profit margin = 100 × (Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ3 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ2 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ1 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ4 2024) ÷ (RevenueQ3 2025 + RevenueQ2 2025 + RevenueQ1 2025 + RevenueQ4 2024)
= 100 × ( + + + ) ÷ ( + + + ) =

2 Click competitor name to see calculations.


Revenue Trends
Revenue shows relative stability over the quarters, fluctuating within a range generally between approximately $27,000 million and $32,000 million. There is no strong upward or downward trajectory, but occasional quarters exhibit moderate increases or decreases. For instance, revenue peaked near $31,253 million in December 2023 and reached one of its lower points at about $29,691 million in March 2023. This indicates a consistent revenue base with minor seasonal or operational variability.
Net Income (Loss) Fluctuations
Net income attributable to the corporation demonstrates significant volatility. From positive results in early 2021, including peaks over $4,000 million in some quarters, there is a notable sharp negative figure in September 2022 with a loss of approximately -$4,598 million. Aside from this anomaly, net income generally recovers and fluctuates between roughly $3,000 million and $4,700 million. The exceptionally high spike in September 2025 to $11,123 million is remarkable and suggests an isolated event or extraordinary gain during that period. Overall, net income is unstable with occasional extreme variations.
Net Profit Margin Behavior
Profit margin percentages exhibit noteworthy variability correlated with net income fluctuations. Early 2021 margins hover around 11-13%, followed by a sharp dip to approximately 4-5% in late 2021 and mid-2022 concomitant with the period of negative net income. Subsequently, margins rebound to a more stable level between approximately 11.5% and 13.1%, with a marked increase reaching above 18% in the last two observed quarters (September and December 2025). This increase aligns with the surge in net income, indicating enhanced profitability efficiency during those periods.
Interrelation of Metrics
The data illustrate a relationship whereby revenue stability contrasts with net income and margin volatility. The period of net loss in late 2022 does not correspond to a significant revenue decline, suggesting factors such as increased costs, one-time expenses, or impairments affect profitability independently of top-line sales. The late 2025 quarters' surge in net income and margins, despite only modest revenue gains, points to improved cost management, exceptional items, or other income sources boosting returns.
Overall Assessment
The financial profile over the examined quarters is characterized by consistent revenue generation but volatile profitability measures. The fluctuations in net income and profit margins highlight periods of operational challenges and recovery, as well as occasional extraordinary gains or losses. The recent sharp increase in profitability could signal improved financial performance or one-time effects requiring further investigation for sustainability analysis.

Return on Equity (ROE)

Comcast Corp., ROE calculation (quarterly data)

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Selected Financial Data (US$ in millions)
Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast Corporation
Total Comcast Corporation shareholders’ equity
Profitability Ratio
ROE1
Benchmarks
ROE, Competitors2
Alphabet Inc.
Meta Platforms Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Trade Desk Inc.
Walt Disney Co.

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).

1 Q3 2025 Calculation
ROE = 100 × (Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ3 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ2 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ1 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ4 2024) ÷ Total Comcast Corporation shareholders’ equity
= 100 × ( + + + ) ÷ =

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Net Income Attributable to Comcast Corporation
The net income demonstrates variability across the reported quarters. Initial values from early 2021 show a generally positive trend, increasing from $3,329 million in March to $4,035 million in September. However, a significant decline is observed in September 2022 where net income drops sharply to a negative value of $-4,598 million, indicating a substantial loss during that quarter. This loss is followed by a recovery in subsequent quarters, with net income returning to positive territory and generally increasing again, peaking at $11,123 million in September 2025 before declining to $3,332 million in the final reported quarter.
Total Shareholders’ Equity
Shareholders’ equity shows fluctuations but remains relatively stable overall. Starting at $92,575 million in March 2021, the equity initially increases slightly, reaching $96,092 million by December 2021. Following this period, a gradual decline occurs through mid-2022 and into late 2022, with equity dropping to around $80,296 million in September 2022—coinciding with the reported net loss quarter. From this low point, equity gradually recovers and fluctuates around the $82,000–$86,000 million range through 2023 and 2024, experiencing an upward trend towards the later quarters, reaching approximately $97,081 million by September 2025.
Return on Equity (ROE)
Return on equity reflects the fluctuations in net income and equity. ROE starts at a moderate level of approximately 12.66% in March 2021, increasing to around 15% by mid-2021. The ratio then declines significantly to about 6.63% by December 2022, following the net loss quarter, suggesting reduced profitability relative to shareholders' equity during this period. In contrast, ROE improves substantially thereafter, climbing sharply to 18–19% range throughout 2023 and 2024, reaching a peak of 23.65% in June 2025 and maintaining high levels around 23% in the final quarter. This trend indicates a strong recovery in profitability and effective use of equity capital in the most recent periods.
Overall Insights
The financial data illustrates a cycle characterized by an initial period of solid profitability and stable equity, followed by a pronounced disruption in late 2022 marked by substantial losses and a decline in equity and ROE. After this period, recovery is evident as profitability, equity, and ROE progressively improve, culminating in robust financial performance by 2025. The return to elevated ROE levels suggests enhanced operational efficiency or favorable business conditions driving higher returns for shareholders in the latter periods analyzed.

Return on Assets (ROA)

Comcast Corp., ROA calculation (quarterly data)

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Selected Financial Data (US$ in millions)
Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast Corporation
Total assets
Profitability Ratio
ROA1
Benchmarks
ROA, Competitors2
Alphabet Inc.
Meta Platforms Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Trade Desk Inc.
Walt Disney Co.

Based on: 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2025-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2024-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2024-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2023-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2023-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2022-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2022-03-31), 10-K (reporting date: 2021-12-31), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-09-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-06-30), 10-Q (reporting date: 2021-03-31).

1 Q3 2025 Calculation
ROA = 100 × (Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ3 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ2 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ1 2025 + Net income (loss) attributable to Comcast CorporationQ4 2024) ÷ Total assets
= 100 × ( + + + ) ÷ =

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Net Income (Loss) Attributable to Comcast Corporation
The net income exhibited fluctuations across the examined periods. Initially, there was an upward trend from March 2021 through September 2021, reaching a peak near 4,035 million USD. This was followed by a decline towards the end of 2021. The first half of 2022 showed relatively stable net income levels before the occurrence of a significant negative value in September 2022, indicating a loss of 4,598 million USD. Subsequently, net income recovered sharply at the end of 2022 and generally remained positive into 2023 and 2024. Notably, the first quarter of 2025 witnessed an exceptional spike to 11,123 million USD, which is substantially higher than all previous quarters. In the quarters following this spike, net income reverted closer to prior levels but stayed positive and comparatively strong.
Total Assets
Total assets showed a gradual decline from March 2021 through September 2022, reducing from 278,511 million USD to a low near 254,308 million USD. After this decrease, assets stabilized and then showed a mild upward trend through 2023 and into 2024, reaching levels above 269,000 million USD by late 2024. In the early quarters of 2025, total assets maintained this level, indicating a period of relative asset stability following the earlier decline.
Return on Assets (ROA)
ROA began at moderate levels around 4.21% in early 2021, increasing to just over 5% by the latter part of the year. However, in mid to late 2022, ROA dropped substantially to near 2%, coinciding with the recorded net loss in the same period. From late 2022 onwards, ROA demonstrated a solid recovery, climbing above 5.8% through 2023 and sustaining levels above 5% into early 2024. The ratio peaked notably in early 2025, reaching above 8%, mirroring the significant increase in net income during the same timeframe. ROA slightly declined again afterwards but remained at an elevated level compared to earlier years.